Comments on: Kill Bill on the Hill http://demarcationville.com/2008/03/26/kill-bill-on-the-hill/ There’s a thin line between normal and insane. I think I’m standing on it… which would explain the big blob of crazy on my shoe. Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:29:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: demarcationville http://demarcationville.com/2008/03/26/kill-bill-on-the-hill/comment-page-1/#comment-423 demarcationville Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:19:16 +0000 http://demarcationville.wordpress.com/?p=651#comment-423 Roger, while it doesn't hurt to keep an eye on Nashville, I think it is a little premature to get your long johns twisted. (Hee) At least, I'd wait and see if it survives the committee before I went to the trouble of organizing a protest march. I do think the TWF has the Camo and Casting Coalition: they might be doing something to oppose the bill. (http://tnwf.org/) Also, Rob Somerville, who wrote the material for Woods&Water (link Deborah provided up there) has an email petition going. Go check that out. Deborah also has a link to TNDeer (http://www.tndeer.com/) Anything, anywhere in the state of Tennessee (and a bit beyond) which has to do with hunters (or not) can be found on those message boards. Keep checking in with them. Roger, while it doesn’t hurt to keep an eye on Nashville, I think it is a little premature to get your long johns twisted. (Hee) At least, I’d wait and see if it survives the committee before I went to the trouble of organizing a protest march.

I do think the TWF has the Camo and Casting Coalition: they might be doing something to oppose the bill. (http://tnwf.org/) Also, Rob Somerville, who wrote the material for Woods&Water (link Deborah provided up there) has an email petition going. Go check that out.

Deborah also has a link to TNDeer (http://www.tndeer.com/) Anything, anywhere in the state of Tennessee (and a bit beyond) which has to do with hunters (or not) can be found on those message boards. Keep checking in with them.

]]> By: Roger http://demarcationville.com/2008/03/26/kill-bill-on-the-hill/comment-page-1/#comment-426 Roger Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:44:57 +0000 http://demarcationville.wordpress.com/?p=651#comment-426 good lord angie. is this a joke? if it is, it's not funny. I thought the tdec was the historical people who make monuments in parks. they probably think a bipod plays mp3s twice. this is bad. where do i sign a petition to fight it or who do i write? good lord angie. is this a joke? if it is, it’s not funny.
I thought the tdec was the historical people who make monuments in parks. they probably think a bipod plays mp3s twice. this is bad. where do i sign a petition to fight it or who do i write?

]]> By: Deborah Metcalf http://demarcationville.com/2008/03/26/kill-bill-on-the-hill/comment-page-1/#comment-425 Deborah Metcalf Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:25:33 +0000 http://demarcationville.wordpress.com/?p=651#comment-425 Wait a minute, rape victims have to pay for their own test kits? My God, what has this country come to. Wait a minute, rape victims have to pay for their own test kits? My God, what has this country come to.

]]> By: Deborah Metcalf http://demarcationville.com/2008/03/26/kill-bill-on-the-hill/comment-page-1/#comment-424 Deborah Metcalf Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:23:48 +0000 http://demarcationville.wordpress.com/?p=651#comment-424 Thanks, I do agree with medical (but not general) legalization, I did not know we had even had a try at such a bill here. Reading more about it last night there was a mention that the other author of the bill has had some long time ongoing conflict about the TWRA, so it seems she may have just got drug into this whole thing under some pretense. The whole thing just doesn't make sense in a way that I just know there is some ulterior personal motive for all of this. One article said that the commercial fishing industry was supporting the bill strongly and sport fishermen were against it, so perhaps there is some situation where commercial industry wants to have a go at our streams and lakes for their own purposes, perhaps they want to set up trawling nets in Cherokee Lake or something that the TWRA opposes, that's probably where the next layer of the story is hiding. Thanks, I do agree with medical (but not general) legalization, I did not know we had even had a try at such a bill here. Reading more about it last night there was a mention that the other author of the bill has had some long time ongoing conflict about the TWRA, so it seems she may have just got drug into this whole thing under some pretense. The whole thing just doesn’t make sense in a way that I just know there is some ulterior personal motive for all of this. One article said that the commercial fishing industry was supporting the bill strongly and sport fishermen were against it, so perhaps there is some situation where commercial industry wants to have a go at our streams and lakes for their own purposes, perhaps they want to set up trawling nets in Cherokee Lake or something that the TWRA opposes, that’s probably where the next layer of the story is hiding.

]]> By: demarcationville http://demarcationville.com/2008/03/26/kill-bill-on-the-hill/comment-page-1/#comment-427 demarcationville Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:18:28 +0000 http://demarcationville.wordpress.com/?p=651#comment-427 Deborah, I don't know that much about Jones' background: I only know of her because she sought to legalize medical marijuana. I will say she has introduced some solid legislation in the area of women and children. In fact, I think she sponsored the bill which would eliminate the need for rape victims to pay for their test kits. I don't know if the motivation is personal: I suspect it has more to do with a simple lack of knowledge and understanding about what the agency does. Sportsmen, <i>outdoorsmen</i> and rural Tennesseans perhaps have a clearer view of the needs TWRA serves and why we need them to remain independent and focused on wildlife preservation, animal population control and protection of the state's largest and most profitable recreational activities: hunting, boating and fishing. You know, prior to the 50's or so, TDEC did control the wildlife resources division. At times there were conflicting goals and gross neglect in the area of preserving native species. It simply did not work. And though I don't always agree with their "wildlife" management practices (I certainly do not share their appreciation for bog turtles and copperheads) I have to say TWRA is one of the more effective state agencies and abolishing it altogether is just a horrible idea. Deborah, I don’t know that much about Jones’ background: I only know of her because she sought to legalize medical marijuana. I will say she has introduced some solid legislation in the area of women and children. In fact, I think she sponsored the bill which would eliminate the need for rape victims to pay for their test kits.

I don’t know if the motivation is personal: I suspect it has more to do with a simple lack of knowledge and understanding about what the agency does. Sportsmen, outdoorsmen and rural Tennesseans perhaps have a clearer view of the needs TWRA serves and why we need them to remain independent and focused on wildlife preservation, animal population control and protection of the state’s largest and most profitable recreational activities: hunting, boating and fishing.

You know, prior to the 50’s or so, TDEC did control the wildlife resources division. At times there were conflicting goals and gross neglect in the area of preserving native species. It simply did not work.

And though I don’t always agree with their “wildlife” management practices (I certainly do not share their appreciation for bog turtles and copperheads) I have to say TWRA is one of the more effective state agencies and abolishing it altogether is just a horrible idea.

]]> By: Save the TWRA : KnoxvilleTalks.com http://demarcationville.com/2008/03/26/kill-bill-on-the-hill/comment-page-1/#comment-428 Save the TWRA : KnoxvilleTalks.com Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:33:53 +0000 http://demarcationville.wordpress.com/?p=651#comment-428 [...] DeMarCaTionVille draws our attention to a proposal to abolish the Tennessee Wildlife Resouces Agency: And perhaps TWRA’s success isn’t as obvious to Jones as it is to me: but Tennessee boasts one of the largest wild turkey populations in America, one of only a few growing elk herds and huntable black bear populations. They stock the rivers, lakes and probably the mud puddles with fish and preserve animal habitats. [...] [...] DeMarCaTionVille draws our attention to a proposal to abolish the Tennessee Wildlife Resouces Agency: And perhaps TWRA’s success isn’t as obvious to Jones as it is to me: but Tennessee boasts one of the largest wild turkey populations in America, one of only a few growing elk herds and huntable black bear populations. They stock the rivers, lakes and probably the mud puddles with fish and preserve animal habitats. [...]

]]> By: Deborah Metcalf http://demarcationville.com/2008/03/26/kill-bill-on-the-hill/comment-page-1/#comment-422 Deborah Metcalf Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:02:04 +0000 http://demarcationville.wordpress.com/?p=651#comment-422 Some links to articles about this terrible bill: http://host1.bondware.com/~nwtntoday/news.php?viewStory=8975 http://www.tndeer.com/tndeertalk/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=635866&page=1&fpart=2 (this one has a history of the agency) discussion: http://tnrockyraccoon.proboards26.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=1205336589&page=1 And I wonder is this the same Sherry Jones that got shot by her husband when she was sleeping with her boyfriend, and then sued the state for allowing her husband to have a big bad gun? http://cases.justia.com/us-court-of-appeals/F3/296/417/ That would be quite a kicker if it was the same Sherry Jones from Tennessee. Some links to articles about this terrible bill:

http://host1.bondware.com/~nwtntoday/news.php?viewStory=8975

http://www.tndeer.com/tndeertalk/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=635866&page=1&fpart=2
(this one has a history of the agency)

discussion:
http://tnrockyraccoon.proboards26.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=1205336589&page=1

And I wonder is this the same Sherry Jones that got shot by her husband when she was sleeping with her boyfriend, and then sued the state for allowing her husband to have a big bad gun?

http://cases.justia.com/us-court-of-appeals/F3/296/417/

That would be quite a kicker if it was the same Sherry Jones from Tennessee.

]]> By: Deborah Metcalf http://demarcationville.com/2008/03/26/kill-bill-on-the-hill/comment-page-1/#comment-421 Deborah Metcalf Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:55:37 +0000 http://demarcationville.wordpress.com/?p=651#comment-421 Oh and I bet this is politics. Somebody in Nashville doesn't like what somebody at the TWRA said about something, or wrote up someone's nephew for poaching and refused to back down or something like that. It'll be in there if someone looks for it. Oh and I bet this is politics. Somebody in Nashville doesn’t like what somebody at the TWRA said about something, or wrote up someone’s nephew for poaching and refused to back down or something like that. It’ll be in there if someone looks for it.

]]> By: Deborah Metcalf http://demarcationville.com/2008/03/26/kill-bill-on-the-hill/comment-page-1/#comment-420 Deborah Metcalf Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:53:28 +0000 http://demarcationville.wordpress.com/?p=651#comment-420 Wow, insanity. I agree with you TWRA is a great run agency and should not be interfered with in any way. Stealing their entire budget and putting them under the control of some environmental agency? I can imagine where that is headed - banning all hunting, while letting wildlife run wild. We got way too many deer as it is and need more hunting before we have an epidemic of deer spread lyme disease. Hunting saves lives and prevents needless suffering, lyme is nasty business. Wow, insanity. I agree with you TWRA is a great run agency and should not be interfered with in any way. Stealing their entire budget and putting them under the control of some environmental agency? I can imagine where that is headed – banning all hunting, while letting wildlife run wild. We got way too many deer as it is and need more hunting before we have an epidemic of deer spread lyme disease. Hunting saves lives and prevents needless suffering, lyme is nasty business.

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